[TFN-help] Re: PROBLEM REPORT

Claude Latremouille claudel@torfree.net
Fri, 26 Apr 2002 21:33:14 -0400 (EDT)


On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Claude Latremouille wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Claude Latremouille wrote:
> >
> > > > Thanks Chris, but I already was using ISO-8859-1 in the
> > > > character set in my PINE configuration.
> > > >[snip]
> > > > E-mail seems to decode properly, but News does not anymore.
> > >
> > >     I'm seeing accents in News postings, just using the default
> > >     settings.
> >
> > Me too, I see accents. The problem is not the display,
> > but the coding-encoding of these 8-bit characters from
> > TFN and to the recipient.
> >
> > I have eliminated the recipient as the problem because
> > the problem occurs everywhere. And everywhere, other
> > posts are properly decoded except mine.
> >
> > The reason why we don't see it at TFN is because there
> > is no problem for TFN to communicate with TFN.
> >
> > Claude Latrémouille
> >
> >    === claudel@torfree.net ===
> >    === CLAUDE LATRÉMOUILLE ===
> >    ===========================
>
> I still don't see a problem; I looked at one of your posts from the TFN,
> posted today. I got it from a German news server, received it over
> Rogers Hispeed service. The accents are there:
>
> *
> Claude Latrémouille
> *
>    === claudel@torfree.net ===
>    === CLAUDE LATRÉMOUILLE ===
>    ===========================
>
> It left the TFN with accents intact.

Velocet is posting things it had not posted for five days.
So, one post of mine was composed *before* the PINE change
and posted by velocet today. That's why there is no problem
with that post.

Here are two examples of what goes on. the first example is
ok, when PINE was working properly:

Article 711941 of alt.prophecies.nostradamus:
Path: freenet-news!cunews!torn!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.uchicago.edu!yellow.newsread.com!bad-news.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newsin.iconnet.net!feed.tor.primus.ca!feed.nntp.primus.ca!newsfeed-tor.nnrp.ca!newsfeed-tor.nnrp.ca!news.nnrp.ca!audacity.velocet.net!torfree.net!claudel
Newsgroups: alt.prophecies.nostradamus
From: Claude Latremouille <claudel@torfree.net>
Subject: REPOST - Nostradamus' invented name
Message-ID: <20020418012612.D18064-100000@sheppard1.torfree.net>
Keywords: Nostradamus
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: torfree.net
X-Original-Trace: 18 Apr 2002 01:30:59 -0400, torfree.net
Lines: 37
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 01:29:42 -0400
NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.138.209.204
X-Complaints-To: news@nnrp.ca
X-Trace: news.nnrp.ca 1019108024 216.138.209.204 (Thu, 18 Apr 2002 01:33:44 EDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 01:33:44 EDT
Organization: NNRP.CA
Xref: freenet-news alt.prophecies.nostradamus:356070

[...]
*
Claude Latrémouille
*
   === claudel@torfree.net ===
   === CLAUDE LATRÉMOUILLE ===
   ===========================

That was example number 1. No problem. Now example number 2:

Article 712286 of alt.prophecies.nostradamus:
Path: freenet-news!cunews!torn!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator-sterling!news-in.nuthinbutnews.com!feed.cgocable.net!feed.tor.primus.ca!feed.nntp.primus.ca!newsfeed-tor.nnrp.ca!newsfeed-tor.nnrp.ca!news.nnrp.ca!audacity.velocet.net!torfree.net!claudel
Newsgroups: alt.prophecies.nostradamus
From: Claude Latremouille <claudel@torfree.net>
Subject: Re: Perpetual prophecies (repost)
In-Reply-To: <uciq309b7b71df@corp.supernews.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0204261558230.60992-100000@sheppard1.torfree.net>
References: <001icu8as7uuivdit2aoo8labdof134n7n@4ax.com> <uciq309b7b71df@corp.supernews.com>
Keywords: Nostradamus, Methodology
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: torfree.net
X-Original-Trace: 26 Apr 2002 20:12:01 GMT, torfree.net
Lines: 40
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 16:10:25 -0400
NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.138.209.204
X-Complaints-To: news@nnrp.ca
X-Trace: news.nnrp.ca 1019852135 216.138.209.204 (Fri, 26 Apr 2002 16:15:35 EDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 16:15:35 EDT
Organization: NNRP.CA
Xref: freenet-news alt.prophecies.nostradamus:356415

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See? The 8-bit has not been coded-decoded properly in
this case. In the first case, it was. Look at the
header, you will see a difference in the items which
have to do with Contents. That is where the problem lies.
QUOTED PRINTABLE should not be there and 8BIT should be
there.

Claude Latrémouille

   === claudel@torfree.net ===
   === CLAUDE LATRÉMOUILLE ===
   ===========================